Do You See What a Wonder You Are? With Dr. Julia Bowlin #205

You are going to want to hear this incredible conversation with Dr. Julia Bowlin, who shares her deeply personal journey through some of life’s toughest challenges—depression, suicide attempts, and an eating disorder. Julia’s story shows just how powerful a surprise spiritual awakening can be in helping us find peace and purpose, even when we’re at our lowest. Her experiences are a beautiful reminder that, no matter what we’re going through, we are never alone.

As a board-certified physician and coach, Julia opens up about how these moments of spiritual intervention completely transformed her life and led her to become the compassionate guide she is today. Her journey is filled with raw honesty, deep insight, and, ultimately, the inspiration we all need when we’re facing our own struggles.

Before we jump in, I want to gently let you know that this episode touches on sensitive topics like depression, suicide attempts, and eating disorders. If you or someone you know is navigating similar feelings, please take care of yourself, and feel free to come back when you’re ready. And remember, help is always available—you can call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline anytime.

More about Julia:  Julia Bowlin, MD, is a board certified physician, Core Excellence & Leadership Coach, published author, Distinguished Toastmaster, professional speaker, and a passionate public educator. She loves working with clients and patients to develop their conscious awareness, and strengthen their emotional intelligence around illness detection, prevention, and treatment. Dr. Julia also enjoys teaching health and medical students from the University of Dayton, Marietta College, The Ohio State University School, and Wright State University. 

Her passion is a deep seated drive to assist people to end the cycle of self harmful thoughts, feelings, and behaviors so that they can live fully, be vivacious, and deeply connect with love of self, others, and spirit. Because of Julia's personal past struggles as an adolescent with depression, self abuse, and eating disorders and her vast education, including a Bachelor of Arts in Socio-Anthropology and Doctorate of Medicine, she has an intimate, as well as professional understanding of how personal, social, and cultural influences impact one’s inner self and, as a result, one’s overall health and wellness. 

Dr. Bowlin believes a blend of conscious awareness, conventional medicine, and personal responsibility is the path towards living a happier, healthier, and more fulfilled life. 

She is also committed to helping fellow professionals find their own happiness, health, and fulfillment through Personal Awareness Medicine™ and Core Excellence & Attitudinal Energy coaching with supportive actionable accountability.

To learn more about Dr. Julia Bowlin

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Transcript

Narrator: 0:52

Welcome to the modern life and spirit Podcast where we explore spiritual topics relevant to today's world. Your hosts, certified psychic medium Christina Wooten and Reiki master teacher Robert Wooten, break down how to work with spirit to create more positive growth in your life. Consider this podcast your go to spiritual resource for navigating the modern world.

Christina Wooten: 1:17

Hey there, kindred spirits. Welcome to another episode of modern life and spirit Podcast. I'm Christina Wooten, certified psychic medium from SedonaMedium.com today we're diving into a conversation about the unseen forces that guide and shape our lives in ways we never really imagined for ourselves. My guest, Dr Julia Bolin, is no stranger to the power of spiritual interventions, and in our conversation, she's going to share some of her personal stories of how these moments of divine guidance or a lightning bolt from the sky, shifts the trajectory of her life, especially during some of the most challenging times. This episode is an exploration of how spirit often steps in, shows us paths we didn't even know were possible and leads us towards healing, growth, connection, both with ourselves and with others. Dr bolin's journey is a testament to how the unexpected, even when it's difficult, can become a source of profound transformation. But before we begin, I do want to offer gentle trigger warning. In this episode, we do discuss sensitive topics, including suicide attempts and eating disorders. So if you have lost a loved one to suicide, or are not in a space where you're ready to hear about these subjects. Please take care of yourself and feel free to come back when the time is right before we get started. I'd like to introduce Dr Julia Bolin. She is a board certified physician, core excellence and leadership coach, published author, distinguished Toastmaster, professional speaker and a passionate public educator. She loves working with clients and patients to develop their conscious awareness, strengthen their emotional intelligence around illness, detection, prevention and treatment. Dr Julia also enjoys teaching health and medical students from the University of Dayton, Marietta College, the Ohio State University School and Wright State University. Her passion is a deep seated drive to assist people to end the cycle of self, harmful thoughts, feelings and behaviors so they can live fully, be vivacious and deeply connected with love of self, others and spirit. Dr Bolin believes a blend of conscious awareness, conventional medicine and personal responsibility is the path towards living a happier, healthier and more fulfilled life. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for being here. Let's get into this special conversation with Dr Julia Bolin, Hi, Julia, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. You look absolutely lovely and perky. I always admire how like you have this energy of I'm here, I'm present, I'm excited about whatever it is that we're doing. I always appreciate that about you. Thank you for being here.

Unknown: 4:00

Well, thank you because I am here and I am excited and I am present. So I appreciate that very much. It's my it's my privilege to be here, actually, wonderful.

Christina Wooten: 4:09

Can you tell people a little bit about who you are, what kind of things that you do, and help people understand maybe the lens that you are expressing yourself through today? Sure. Yeah. So

Unknown: 4:23

I have been a family practice physician for 31 years long practice, and just recently retired from my family medicine and shifting career years just a little bit. And so I'm coming here as somebody who presently is very pleased with where my life is right now, very comfortable and relaxed and present. But it wasn't always that way. There was a time in my life where I really did struggle deeply with depression, had multiple suicide attempts, had a horrible eating disorder, and was a self abuser. So there was a whole lot going on when I was a young adolescent through my young adulthood, and so part of that journey is, what is why I'm here is to tell you how that kind of got shifted through spirit.

Christina Wooten: 5:08

It's interesting to me, because you really have gone completely full circle to be in the place of, you know, I'm at the lowest place in my life. I'm really needing support. I'm really needing help and intervention to being that person who's providing help, support, intervention for other people who are in that in that space, and now it's, you know, incredible, that shift where you are in the spectrum of someone who needs support to someone who's offering the support that, to me, is really indicative of true healing that complete circle. Yeah, I'll

Unknown: 5:47

agree. With that, it took the spirit intervention when I was 18 to show to me the value of life experiences, both good and bad, ups and downs, positive, negative, ins and outs, all the things we go through. And without that spirit intervention when I was 18, I really wouldn't be here today. So

Christina Wooten: 6:08

we're going to talk about some of the things that have have shaped this life journey for you. But I want to start with, where did you start to notice this, this energy, this presence, this intuitive connection that you have? Because we have to have some sort of intuitive connection to begin with, to recognize that booming voice of Spirit that says, Go this way, move in this direction. And I bet it didn't start at that place. So what did that look like for you? When did you start to recognize that?

Unknown: 6:36

Oh, you know, I think I was really closed off to it up until that point, which is maybe a while, spirit boomed in my head so, so blatantly. I do remember as a child having a moment sitting on a log in the woods feeling deeply connected. And I was probably about seven, but I lost it due to traumatic experiences and disassociation and shutting down because of my life experiences when I was very young. And so honestly, I probably, you know, I had it until some of this trauma happened, and then when I was ready to say goodbye to this world, Spirit said, Ah, hang on, hang on. Let's, let's hit the brakes here, lady, there's something else we got to talk about. Yeah, it's

Christina Wooten: 7:21

time. Time to flip it around. There's another way, I think that's so important that we kind of get stuck in our habits and stuck in how we look at things that you know, it takes something outside of ourselves to just break that pattern, to shift us out of that old thinking and to see that there is another way. And it's beautiful that spirit was able to do that for you. So, so can you share what happened when you were 18 that started this whole process for you, sure,

Unknown: 7:52

sure. And I think what you are alluding to a little bit, I call it mindset medicine, which is why I'm so passionate about what I do right now, is it is the mindset, and how did, how did that perspective and that belief get shifted? So I was at Ohio State. Was not happy there. My gymnastics career was pretty much ended at this point, and I was a top gymnast at that time, and had a lot of identity issues. Was a perfectionist and not doing I was failing school. My depression was horrible, my eating disorder was horrible, my self abuse was horrible. I was falling apart. I had already tried to kill myself at a much younger age, in sixth grade. So I had really had a pervasive, long list of suicidality and depression, and I'd finally made the decision. I was at Ohio State. I was walking across the campus, and I came upon Mirror Lake, and I just knew that that day was my last day. I had the gun. I had the bullets, and I was making sure that this time I was going to succeed, good or bad or indifferent, it was going to happen. And I was sitting at the edge of Mirror Lake, and just the ugliness and the disgust in myself and the fear and the anguish and all that just came flooding back into my heart, and I'm like, done. I'm done. I'm done. Like I had the place, I had the way to do it, and suddenly, just like a pop, just like a pop, I was just transported into a white room, and I literally had an unexpected, unsolicited and unwanted shift that I didn't even ask for, and it just like, boom, went to this white room where I was in the only time I could think of my entire life. I felt calm, I felt peace, and I felt like a blanket of love was wrapped all around me, and I knew, I knew I was home. It's that's just all I can say is, like, I'm home. Oh gosh, I'm home. It's like, it was like, the burden was gone. The weight was gone. I was home, and I was good. And that's when I felt this voice more than hear it. I felt the voice. It was knowing. It's like, you are here. You can stay here as long as you want, forever, if you want. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, Yeah, this is where you know. Okay, good deal. Evan the Spirit said that before you make that decision, I'm going to show you something you don't know. And I'm like, but he's, I want to show you what a wonder you are. Oh, well, I didn't feel like a wonder prior to I got, gotten to this white room, but so I was given the gift of seeing myself as a soul being on earth from the time I was born, and just watching the colors. And the growth and the movement up and down, both in and out, do the bad, the good, the trauma, the all the experiences without pain, it was just a witnessing of the soul moving along with all my soul group people that have been with me, in and out of my life, just feeling that growth, and it brought me all the way up until the moment where I was popped into the White Room and spirit said, Do you see what a wonder you are, and I'm gonna cry. It's gonna happen. I'm sorry because I because I did. And prior to being in the White Room, I absolutely had the opposite belief that life was held, that the Lord was against me, that I was a victim of every circumstance and every pain. And I kind of went, Yeah, I kind of do. And then spirit voice in me, hear me through me said, you know, you can stay here forever, if you want, or you can go back and make I'm staying. I'm not going back to that. I'm done. And I heard slash, felt that voice again. Say, Who would you like to see what would happen if you did go back and like, wow, that'd be kind of cool. Sure you get you know, I'm not going back, but it'd be kind of cool just to see what it would be like. And I was given an opportunity to see myself on a stage and keeping something in mind. I didn't share emotions. To this point, I hid from everybody. I was not somebody who would ever go on stage, let alone stand up and do something that I was doing, and that was I was crying on stage, and I was feeling deeply, and I was watching it as if I was in a black and white, sepia tone movie. Is like, I'm over here, and I'm watching myself on stage, and I'm moving, and I'm comfortable and I'm confident, and then, like, the camera pans out to the audience, and I can see their silhouettes, but more importantly, I was seeing their light, their souls. And I saw like when they looked towards each other, how that souls were interacting in their light. And then I'm crying. I'm thinking, goodness gracious, I'm standing up there saying, I mean, I'm obviously very vulnerable in front of people, and safe and okay. And not only that, the light from the audience was enveloping me as if we are one energetic growth pot. And that's when I realized that I wasn't alone. My whole life. I felt like I had to do it alone. Everything that to ask for help was weakness, that when I did ask for help, I got shot down. So I just learned that, you know, I was in and I wasn't enough for me. I needed more, and I wasn't strong enough or smart enough or emotionally stable enough to be enough just for me. But seeing that moment like, not only was I okay, but I was sharing my story, but it was not about my story. Was witnessing how we as a collective, when we share the vulnerability that we grew, that was really pivotal for me at that moment, and then I was brought back to the White Room, and again, heard, do you see what a wonder you are, whether you go back or not, you stay that wonder. And before I was even asked, I was back at Mirror Lake. And it was just like pop right back to Mirror Lake. And I had such validity that my story, my pain, how to could have a purpose and that I could obviously heal like there wasn't this all the time, that there was something more that I wasn't seeing. And within 20 minutes, I was walking back to my dorm room. I was at the towers, the good old 21st floor at the towers, and called my mom and said, I'm leaving Ohio State. Wow, she She didn't ask a single question. She came and got me, she

Christina Wooten: 14:53

didn't ask a question. So do you feel like she heard it in your voice? Or what was she picking up on?

Unknown: 14:58

She had seen all my depression for years. I'd been already in an institution for my eating disorder, and I had lost my gymnastics and I was failing school, and I could have stayed in that environment knowing I was not going to make it, or I could make changes, and I knew that after the White Room experience, that I had to do something different. And that's what got me I said, I'm going to come home, I'm going to get into counseling, I'm going to try to heal. And from that point on, everything that I did in my life, knowing that I mattered and that my lessons were really important to share, and if I didn't share those I Ottawa all this whole time, my whole pathway, going to medical school, getting my coaching. Certificate learning hypnotherapy, which is what I'm doing now. It's all been building because I knew that that gift I was given had a reason and a purpose, and it gave me the light to follow.

Christina Wooten: 16:01

So what was your healing process like after this? I mean, such an impactful moment of you're here, you've made the decision, you're convinced that this is the only path forward, the only way for relief to be suddenly you're in the White Room and actually seeing yourself as a soul being and the impact that you can have on other people, and just completely reorienting your thought process, and then suddenly having to kind of be in the world again. I mean, that's kind of jarring to just suddenly, like I see souls, and I see this beautiful unity energy that's playing out in the love that we're surrounded with, and having experienced that and brought that memory back with you, like, how did you re acclimate to to life? What was that like for you? Slow

Unknown: 16:57

and long, slow and long. It wasn't just you know, boom, everything is grand. It wasn't that I was given the vision. I was given hope that I could heal my energy, but I knew that I one had to reach out, so I got into counseling. I was never a book reader ever, and spirit God universe laid LEO b Scalia's books right in front of me, and it was the first time I'd given another perspective on love, on what love could be and how to heal love within the family, which was lacking. My My mom was never a hugger, my dad, we were never good enough. And so we didn't have, you know, have that growing up. We had the expectation of perfection, you know, all those and so I had to learn to love, because I didn't know how love myself before anything. I had to learn to ask for help, and that was hard, because I've been slapped down too many times in the past, but I had to find the right cheerleaders and the right support people, right? So I found the books, I reached out to the local church. I went to eating disorders group meetings. I mean, I did everything I could, and after a year, I begged my parents to let me try to go back to school. But instead of going to Ohio State, I went to liberal arts school called Earlham in Richmond, Indiana, and it was more of a home to me. Gymnastics was taken out of the equation, so I didn't have that sports thing hanging over me. And I felt like I could finally connect with some people. And then I thought I was crazy. Okay, I'm going to tell you I thought my white room. I thought I had a psychotic breakdown. I am going to tell you that for sure. I really thought I had a psychotic breakdown, and I didn't tell that story for 20 years. And when finally I started, I think, was I maybe I read the Celestine Prophecy, or read one of the books, and I went, Wait a minute. Yeah, that wasn't a psychotic break. That really was my experience. So I did question it for a long time, but I didn't, but it didn't keep me from making the steps to improvement and healing. Even through medical school and college, I had to go and get like, go back to counseling and go back to that support

Christina Wooten: 19:06

system. And I think learning to ask for support emotionally from places that are emotionally available in places that are balanced, make a big difference too. You know, when you're in a challenging family unit, you know the people that you're asking for support from and help from maybe aren't emotionally available and supportive or deep in their own trauma, but those are the people that are accessible. And I think it teaches us, on some level, to almost get accustomed to being rejected emotionally, and then part of that healing is learning like how to identify who's a positive, available balance source for us to go to for extra support when you're really needing it. And I think, you know, counseling is a good one. You know, finding other people who are have done this full circle loop that you have described too, of being able to be the one who needed healing and the one who is offering healing now makes such a big difference, sure, and also, you know,

Unknown: 20:14

the the community that I was surrounded with was a much more they were just more liberal, right? I could, I could play out how I who I wanted to be, or how I wanted to be in that environment much more. And in that process of healing. I was able to heal myself long before we were able to heal our family unit. Like I had to step away from the family unit. And even the counselor told my parents, she needs to get out house. You. This is unhealthy environment for her. She's not going to heal. And so he convinced my parents I need to go back to school. And so when I moved to a different school. People and stayed away from the house. Then I worked on myself, and eventually worked on healing relationships with my mother, my father and my family. Yeah,

Christina Wooten: 20:56

yeah, from a more healed place or strong place, being able to not jump right back into those dynamics, yeah, is so important because you're, you know, so patterned at that point, it's so easy to be influenced to go right back into it, right into it, yep, oh, yes, wow. So that was really beautiful, that you're able to do that. I wanted to touch on your that feeling of I had a psychotic break. I'm sure that that's what happened, for sure that that occurred. And some people know this, some people don't. I worked at a psychiatric hospital for seven years, and I worked predominantly on the unit with schizophrenics and people who were actively having psychotic breaks. We were the locked unit that was the crisis center, and I really loved that work. Later I left because I wanted to focus on healing versus just the crisis intervention aspect. I felt like there was deeper places that we could reach people at, but most of the time, my experience was that when people were having legitimate psychotic breaks, that they were having these horrible, scary experiences or overwhelming experiences. They were hearing things that were really negative and detrimental and harmful to them and to their well being. Some people had religious ideosity and fantasies of they were Jesus, or they were, you know, mother, Mary, this person who is coming back. So you know that that aspect was a little different, but it always had this hallmark of self neglect at the same time. So it's like, even if they felt like, Oh, I'm I'm now this grand person, they weren't eating, they weren't showering, they weren't taking care of their basic physical body needs. And you know, we're also a lot of word salad. And so that struck me with your story of this differentiation. Because when we do have these profound spiritual experiences, they can be kind of off the wall, or, you know, so different than our normal way of looking at the world that it's shocking to like, oh, suddenly I'm in this white room, and how am I going to tell people about this profound experience that I had? I mean, that is pretty jarring, but there does seem to be these distinctive places where we can see the difference between this is a spiritual experience that I had that changed my paradigm from this is a continuously collapsing psychotic episode that I'm having. I'm

Unknown: 23:36

going to agree with that, yeah. But for me, since I didn't know differently, to me, it was such a massive shift from my reality that I just thought I was worsening in my crazy factor. But what it did is it brought the crazy into an understandable like I could see, right? I witnessed the trauma. I witnessed the collapsing and the changing. So I was able to say, Okay, I'm not crazy. That was me reacting, right? I was reacting to my circumstance in the best way that I could with the information and the skills I had at the time, and I was judging myself more crazy than anybody else probably would have, yeah, but for me, that experience was that deep and dark, and I hid it. For most people, most people didn't even have a clue, which is a lot of times. Unfortunately, many of us high performing, perfectionistic people, we can hide it really well. So that's why I feel like this kind of work. You know, learning in, in reaching out and finding coaches and in, you know, if it's not in your sphere, there's always somebody somewhere ready and willing to help you if you can reach that handout. So

Christina Wooten: 24:49

after having had that experience, beginning your healing journey, you went to school you thought you were going for one thing,

Unknown: 24:59

yeah, and ended

Christina Wooten: 25:01

up getting like another intervention that said no course correct time. What happened there.

Unknown: 25:11

So I did end up going into socio anthropology, and loved it, and was fully getting ready to graduate. Had back then we had quarters. So I had two quarters left, winter and spring, and I was getting ready to graduate. I was winding down my senior year. All is going well, and I'm walking across a different campus, this time at Earlham College, and I felt the voice slash. It goes right through me, going, you're going to medical school. And I remember saying, Is it okay for an expletive? I remember saying, What the hell. I think, no, I'm not. Yes, you are. This is path that you want to be on. And like, No, I don't. So for fairness, my father was a doctor, my mom was a nurse, and I blamed them and their careers for their not being available to me, for them, either being too tapped out, too tired, or for not witnessing or expecting more of me what I could give. I blamed their careers as well as them for my difficulties. And like there was no way and heck, I was going to go to medical school because I didn't want to be like that. I didn't want to be like that to myself, to my family. And so when I heard that, I was like, No, but my heart went, Oh, that does feel congruent. Maybe that that will help me reach more people in their times of deep human frailty. And that felt good. And so within 20 minutes, I was walking over to my advisor, who was a very granola kind of a guy walk in. He's like, What the heck are you doing here? I'm like, because I was supposed to be graduating soon, right? I don't need any more counseling. I said, What do I need to do to go to medical school? And he let loose a bunch of expletives, like, What the heck are you thinking? And he went down that road, and I'm like, I know just what do I need to do? And so with, you know, I adding on some more school years, and ended up with a bachelor BA and almost a BS, and in got my pre med, it on top of my socio anthropology and and applied and used my story of, you know, my life experiences, as to why I felt like I could be the kind of person that could really help people through vulnerable and difficult times, including health, mentally, physically and spiritually and And that's how I got into medical school. Then, wow,

Christina Wooten: 27:52

it's interesting to me that, you know, a lot of times people have these, those types of experiences, and they they hide them, you know, and don't share them, and don't talk about them, it kind of stays in this private place inside, and it can sometimes get mixed up with, like, shame and ego and all this other stuff. And so I'm really admire that you were like, let me share my story. Let me tell people about these like this really personal journey that I've been on, that I think is relatable in so many ways. And you put that out there and said, Okay, and this is why I can help other people in these moments, I feel like that's really incredible. What I mean? How do you feel like you got that courage to just say, All right, here's here's the truth, here's the real deal. This is why we're here. You know,

Unknown: 28:42

I think the the White Room experience was so indelible and so real and felt so right, that when I felt the voice again, it just, it was a no brainer to me. It's like, yep, yep, in in I questioned it, and, you know, let out some expletives, you know, for about 20 minutes, and went, yep, that's what's gonna happen. And so I'm grateful that I trusted it enough to follow it yes

Christina Wooten: 29:16

and to be open, to share it with other people. I think is so important. We need to talk about these things more in these awakenings, too. So I was really responding also to this feeling of when spirit's guidance comes at what seems like inconvenient times, like you're two, you're just two little sections away from being completely done and being able to walk away and being, you know, starting your new life journey that I'm sure you had visualized and, you know, had plans for and have beliefs about, and we're excited for, and then suddenly it's like the lightning bolt comes down and says, Oh no, everything that you've ever you know believed about this experience, it's not even going to happen, because I have something better for you. You just don't know it's better, but it's better, it's more wonderful. And I'm going to usher you into this moment, but our ego goes, Are you kidding me? Like, could you come in three years ago would have been better timing? Right?

Unknown: 30:17

Yeah, I agree with you. I think all of my spiritual interventions were at a point of inconvenience, or, you know, unexpected.

Christina Wooten: 30:25

And, you know, I think that gives a lot of validity to it too, because we're just, we're not expecting it just this shocking moment that really, because it comes out of nowhere, it makes us pay attention to it a little bit more. I had that a similar experience when I had a business and shut it down. I just, I had been feeling all of this sense of this isn't working. I just. I'm not feeling like the joy that I, you know, want to bring into the world through this. Something's not right. I just kept and I kept talking to spirit, what am I supposed to do? What's the next direction? And there was one day that it just came in so clear. I was riding in the passenger seat, and I'm looking out, and I heard this is going to continue until you shut it down. But I didn't want to, but it was just like you described. It was so clear and so booming and so you couldn't even question it. It had not come from my mind. It was a directive. You can keep this suffering going, or you can shut it down and go in the next direction that is better for you, the way that the doors are opening so prolong the suffering or make the shift. And that's what I felt like. And I did. I immediately went home, I wrote the email and shut it down immediately. And it was it was hard. It was hard to walk away from what I felt like was this investment, and I had invested all this time and hopes and energy, but that direction has proven to be at a much better direction for me, and one that's brought me more joy and happiness and positivity. And I know that it was intended for me. This direction was intended for me. Yeah, so you go to medical school, you are working, you know, obviously really hard, suddenly devoting your life to a completely different path than you anticipated that you had plans for. So then what happens?

Unknown: 32:25

Well, what happens next is, I meet my husband in medical school, got married, had some kids, moved to North Carolina, and then started really struggling in the marriage, a lot of different things, some that are standard, as far as poor communication, some that are a little more, you know, like, I didn't like what he was doing, and we were doing a tug of war struggle, like, I need more time away. You need, you know, you know, I needed help with the kids. You can go on and on and on. But it led to us moving back to Ohio, me taking over my father's medical practice, and the marriage crumbling. And we tried three different counselings, we tried multiple things, and it just wasn't working. And so fast forward a year or two. After all, it started. The divorce papers are in my car. I'm driving down the highway on I 75 going 60 miles an hour, thinking, okay, when I get home, I'm going, you know, I'm imagining my life taking off another direction without my husband. And so I'm thinking, okay, you know, I'm processing all that. And you know, this has been two to three years, actually, that we were separated and just I was ready for a movement and some completion. And suddenly, you know, as I'm picturing my life without him, spirit comes through and says, You need to get back together. And I'm thinking what we just went through all this time, all this counseling, all these legal things to get these papers together, I'm going home and I'm going to sign these papers, and spirit comes through and says, the lessons that you have learned I needed to learn, the lessons up to that point are now the ones that would heal my marriage. So all the things that I had to learn to do myself, be myself, get my voice grow into me, taking learning more about what I was capable of without a husband, without a fan. You know, my family doing it. I had worked so hard for three years as we were separated, to really find myself, find my voice, grow and spirit says now you need to get back with this man, because those are the lessons that both of you need to work on together, otherwise that same pattern will continue in my life with another human being because of the same issues that I needed to work on as well. And so it made it very clear that this was the right move, and I am not kidding, within 10 minutes, because I know spirit, I know, I know, and it's right. I know it is on my heart, and it's, it's congruent. I picked up the phone and I called my husband, and he said, What? After all that, you're really gonna do this now. You're really gonna do this now. And like, yeah, I said, spirit. And he went, Oh crap, because he has learned, and he's known my stories at this point I had, you know, I'd come out with them. And he says, seriously, I said, spirit. He's like, Okay, what do we need to do? And so we were in again. That wasn't an overnight improvement, it was years. Years of me speaking my truth in a respectful and calm way, and him being willing to listen and working with it, and so it wasn't not an overnight success, but we're 33 years into our marriage now, and doing very, very well. We are riding bumps after bumps together in a in a loving and supportive way that's kind and respectful and as partners, because Spirit guided me back into this relationship,

Christina Wooten: 36:23

I understand that we have placeholders, which is what you were describing, is when our soul still needs to grow in a certain direction. And if we leave one relationship, or we leave one situation, and we're not complete with the lesson that we It doesn't have to necessarily be with that person, we'll end up going to the next relationship. We'll have the same themes, the same energy, the same patterns. Because, you know, can't really escape that lesson that we need to learn until we're, you know, growing and we're shifting, and it's kind of inconvenient, right? We can't just, like, let me just change this relationship. I don't love how this feels. I don't love this, you know, challenge that I'm having right now. Let me just shift this up right quick. And then, lo and behold, the next partner you're with is like, Oh, this is the same thing. Gosh darn it. It's not you, it's

Unknown: 37:22

this energy. I will take that one more step that you know, knowing that energy during that time, because I felt it and knew it and followed it, it felt right and and when I have been ignoring the energy the last five years, knowing that it was time to leave my medical practice and do something else that follows my journey of speaking and talking and connecting deeper to to larger groups. I couldn't keep doing what I was I was trying to be a full time doctor and manage my husband in his illness, and build a coaching business and have a podcast. And in my soul was like, I know I'm supposed to do this other stuff. I know it, but I'm a doctor, right? That's where we're supposed to go. And finally, I listened to, you know, I had to say the doctoring isn't who I am. It's what's enabled me to get to this point and help the people to this point. And so I was fighting spirit and intuition and knowing what I need to do like you with your store, right? Like, you know, but, but, but, but, but, the second I did it, and, you know, after three months of churning and worrying and what, I'm not a doctor, that's what I do, you know, and then finally, like, it isn't who I am, it's, you know, what I've done. And so I once, I stopped fighting it and following that, that knowing and just like the whole universe, put everything so I could make it the easiest transition ever. Yes, it's like, when it makes like you said, it's just, I made the email shut the thing. It's like me, I made the decision, and everything came together to make it a beautiful transition for my patients, for my family, for my my employer, for my everything is like, it just my husband even said it's like the universe said, Yes, like, absolutely. And let me help you as much as I can to make this amazing transition. And so on that side, when I was ignoring it, I could feel that the negative tug and the negative energy, as soon as I made that decision, it's like, yeah. Off it went,

Christina Wooten: 39:29

yeah. This friction had been happening just for somebody, you know, for those who are listening, I've been able to just be on the sidelines of this, you know, moment of change for you. And, you know, shifting from constant patient work and balancing the things that you're, you know, doing with your leadership coaching and see you transition in a whole different level of your work has been. It has been that way where it's just been like the Yes, from the universe, things suddenly open up when that release of tension. It's like that rubber band gets pulled back. And when you release the resistance and release the tension, however long you've been kind of holding that, it just sort of catapults you forward sometimes. And I felt like that has been the way the universe is responding to this change for you now is like, all right, you're just flying through the air now and moving forward and but it's been, instead of like that being stressful, it's been more just, what I'm seeing is like, with a sense of grace and, like, peace and a sense of purpose and just things lining up, yeah. And I mean, you really, you can see it on your face. You can hear in your voice, we talk at least once a week, and it really is very noticeable how that shift has happened. And so it's really been fun to watch. And fun to just kind of see it all and affirming, I think of when we're in alignment, that these doors just really can open wide for us. Agreed.

Unknown: 40:59

Thank you for that. So

Christina Wooten: 41:00

what have you learned overall from all of this inconvenient spiritual intervention that led to really beautiful pathways that you might have never seen for yourself or even considered for yourself. How do you feel like that helps you approach life like what have you learned from it? And how does that fit into your philosophy?

Unknown: 41:22

Trying to summarize it all in my head and in my thinking and it came down to faith that everything and anything that I went through and that we go through does help our soul grow and move in in different directions all the time. Trust that when you're ready to reach out a hand or ask for help, that somebody some program, some coach, some counselor, some spirit or spirit guides, and God is there to help you. So faith, trust and transcendence, for me, became the key thing, because transcending from one to another to another, but not necessarily linear. It is ups and downs and all different directions. But that, for me, Transcendence is, is out of pain to purpose. It's out of friction to ease and grace. It's out of chaos to, you know, just calm. I just, I just have found that that transcendence is, it's my jam. I'm always looking for it. I'm trying, always trying to help other people, but that they have to have the faith and the trust to get to that transcendence place. And that's kind of where the beauty of it all kind of ties together for me.

Christina Wooten: 42:42

So last question I have for you is, I imagine that when you hear those words when you have this download of what a wonder you truly are, that that profoundly affects your sense of self love, that you suddenly have a whole new perspective on that. How do you live self love in your life right now? Wow,

Unknown: 43:04

that's great. You don't even know this, I think, but I wrote a book called to me, Ivy wed, how to love, honor and cherish yourself forever after.

Christina Wooten: 43:13

I did not know that.

Unknown: 43:14

I don't think you knew that. It's, it is, it's published on Amazon, and I wrote it about 10 years ago, and it was basically, it's a it's a fun story, and I'll tell it really quickly. I was at I knew I was writing the book, and I had the book writing, but I just couldn't get the name of the book pinned down. And I was at my nephew's wedding, and he loved the vows, and he said to me, I thee wed, instead of to to thee, I thee wed, and he said to me, I thee wed, and I am not kidding, when I heard internal bells in my head going off, going, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, that's it. That's it. That's it. And so for me, it that journey of to me, I be wed, learning how to love, honor and cherish myself. Started with mindset and belief that faith, trust and transcendence. But it also was like, what is it that brings me joy in the morning? What are the colors? What is the tea? What is the warmth? What are my five senses that I like? What do I want to taste in my tea? What do I want to listen to? What do I want to feel setting myself up in the morning for that those joyful things, if I'm going to be working on my patient documents, how can I make my setting, my environment, yummy. That makes you happy. How can I make my body feel the strongest by going to bed at 930 and getting up at 430 people in my family think I'm nuts, but they know this about me. I'm an early riser. I function really good in the morning, so learning the things that make you feel yummy, that bring joy to every moment, the helping all your influencers in your environment and in your brain. You can apply that to your relationships as well. Like, what's gonna you know, how do you make those things yummy? And I, and that, to me, is, was the shift is, like, how can I make the smallest things, like cleaning a cat litter box, fun.

Christina Wooten: 45:12

Oh, God, please tell me that tip, because that is not pleasurable.

Unknown: 45:16

I put in a good music in my head. I it has to be music in the head. You need just I think. And I don't listen to music hardly at all, but when I do, it's to bring in a joy energy to something that just, you know, dancing around the litter box. You know,

Christina Wooten: 45:36

I love that that's beautiful. So how can people connect with you, if they want to just learn more about your perspective, your positive energy, your approach to life? How can they connect with. You one

Unknown: 45:48

way would be my mindset medicine podcast. So I have that on Apple, Google, Spotify, but it's mindset medicine by Dr Julia Bolin. Another is on my website. Julia Bolin, md.com, and sign up for a newsletter on my website. There's different ways you can get connected. I will put I'm putting out new educations Facebook Lives getting ready to launch a webinar on anxiety, overwhelm and disconnection for professional women, so you could keep an eye out for that

Christina Wooten: 46:20

wonderful thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you for all of your very open hearted sharing. I so appreciate your perspective and also the wisdom and the integration that you've done. It's one thing to have an awakening, and it's another thing to really integrate that awakening in a deep way that transforms you, that transforms everything around you in a positive way, and I just admire the direction that you've taken with all of this. So thank you for being so open with us and sharing. Thank

Unknown: 46:51

you. Thank you. My pleasure being here.

Christina Wooten: 46:53

Thank you. Thanks, Julia. If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, please know that you're not alone. Help is available. You can reach out to the suicide and crisis lifeline by calling or texting 988, at any time, there is always someone ready to listen and to support you. Thank you for joining us. Many blessings. The

Robert Wooten: 47:18

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